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Help:Talk page

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Talk pages are places for communicating with other editors and discussions about articles or policies. These links will be helpful:

  • Wikipedia:Talk page guidelines- rules of thumbs, advice and policy for conducting one self on a talk page; the verbal wars can rage hot, and it can be hard to stay cool, and it is easy to say things that will haunt one. Heed this page well!
  • Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages- signing is a great courtesy to everyone, to yourself(since you can follow your own words and keep track of dates), for the other readers (so they know who said it, when), and for later visitors (they can follow the conversations, and they can fix the formatting if need be). It is so easy to do! A mere 4 tildes is all it takes: ~~~~ .
  • Wikipedia:Refactoring talk pages- Cleaning up old discussions
  • Wikipedia:How to archive a talk page- What to do when a talk page grows to monstrous proportions.

[edit] Formatting

Talk pages are formatted differently from articles; this serves to differentiate discussion from actual facts and articles. As well, the two serve different purposes.

  • In a Talk page, everyone should sign their contributions (unlike an article).
  • Wiki markup should be used as much as possible. Gratuitous HTML markup makes the source of the article harder to understand, more difficult to edit, and possibly conflicts with various pieces of software. Besides that, it is inconsistent. So, for example, whenever you see <i>Foo</i>, convert that to ''Foo''.
  • Spelling and grammar should be up to that of an article. Other people besides the direct discussers read Talk pages as well, and a ugly, ill-spelled, ungrammatical monstrosity reflects poorly on the wiki as a whole.
  • Follow the format of the "Post a comment" link. On an article page, there should be no spaces in the headers, but in a Talk there should be. Likewise, in an article, there should be no blank lines between a header and its content, whereas on Talk pages, there should be one blank line between a section header and and two blank lines after the end of the section and the header beginning the next.
  • Speaking of the headers, all the comments should fall into a section. If it isn't worth putting into a section of its own, then the comment may be too trivial and should be removed. The ultimate goal of Talk pages is improving articles, not to gossip.
  • Links should always be enclosed in single brackets and given a name where the webaddress is not the important part.
  • When quoting the article or another, follow the Help:Style guide.
  • Some people prefer to put a discussion between two people in an alternating indentation format, like so:
Foo. --1
Foobar. --2
Blaxos. --1

But what happens when multiple people are talking simultaneously, at widely varied times? This simple model falls apart. It is better to "thread" messages, like in an email client, so complex examples form a sort of tree:

Foo. --1
Foobar. --2
Foobat. --1
Bat. --3
Bar? --4
Meep. --2
Blaxthos. --5
Thos. --1
Zork. --5
Baa? --1

In general, it is preferrable to use colons : to indent your comments, rather than bullet points. Including a blank line before your new comment improves readability considerably.

Contents

There is a talk page or discussion page attached to every type of wiki page.

The most commonly used are article and user talk pages. They exist for communicating with other Wikians about articles and improving the wiki. Just click the "discussion" or "talk page" link at the top of any page to find it. This link may be red while the page is empty, and another colour when there is some conversation happening on the page.

Talk page types

User talk pages

Registered contributors have a personal talk page where other users can leave messages. Just click the "discussion/talk page" link at the top of a user page. If someone leaves a new message on your talk page, you will see a bright banner across the top of all other Wikia pages you visit. Click the link in the message (or the userbar link "My talk") to go to your talk page.

There are talk pages for non-logged-in contributors too, but these may not always be useful. As they are linked to IPs, and IPs can change between visits, the messages may not get to the right person. While they are used to try to explain blocking of an IP address and may identify where a user is, they may not be very useful for real communication. This is another good reason to create an account.

Article talk pages

Each page in every namespace has its own talk page which can be used to discuss the contents of the article/policy/help page/etc. Leaving a message here does not create a "new messages" banner in the same way user talk pages do, but anyone with an interest in the page - especially those who see the page on their watchlist or on recent changes - may reply.

Using talk pages

Leave message link
Footer link

Comments on talk pages can be picked up by Google and other search engines, and are available under GFDL, so keep that in mind when you write.

It's possible to add a new section to a talk page without opening the whole edit page. Just click the "Leave message" or "+" link at the top of the article, or the "Start a new thread" link at the end of the page.

You will be given spaces to enter a title for your new section, and to enter your comment. You can then save, and the comment will be added as a new section at the bottom of the page. This makes it useful for really large discussion pages.

Some other general guidelines for talk pages:

  • Sign your comments by typing "~~~~" (four tildes). This will add your name and a timestamp.
  • Add comments to the end of the page.
  • When replying to a comment, indent your reply by placing a colon (":") at the beginning of a line.
  • Keep your comments polite and friendly. It's always best to be civil, even if things get heated.

Archiving talk pages

If any talk page gets too long, you can create an archive by typing [[/Archive]] (or any other name you like to use) onto the talk page. You can click the new link (preferably in a new window), copy over the older comments, then remove them from the main talk page.

For more detailed advice on this, visit Help:Archiving talk pages.

See also