Talk:Artur Paendrag Tanreall

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[edit] Question

How could Hawkwing unite all of Randland if the Stone of Tear never fell to him? Was he originally the ruler of Tear? - Zero - Talk 06:04, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

Could Tear have joined voluntarily?Fatidiot1234 17:15, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

Maybe. But I wanna know for sure. - Zero - Talk 16:59, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

Hawkwing definitely wasn't from the pre-Tairen nation; Shandalle was up near Cairhien, instead.[1] At a guess, I'd say Tear (or more properly, Moreina joined Hawking's empire voluntarily after resisting Guire Amalasam's attempt. The Guide may have more info... -- nae'blis 18:01, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

Hmmm. I guess you're right. - Zero - Talk 04:23, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

I read in the The World of Robert Jordan's The Wheel of Time that the governor of the Stone of Tear declared his support for Hawkwing however the rest of Tear had to be taken, from the nobles who held those lands, by force. - Zero - Talk 05:32, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Children and Dates

This article is confusing, it states that he got married in 933 AND 937 to the same woman, probably a miswrite. It also states that he had four children, with one dying in battle and the other three being poisoned. However, we also know that Luthair and and unnamed daughter each lead their respective expeditionary forces and vanished. This needs attention. SirGodspeed 19:36, September 22, 2009 (UTC)