Talk:Lews Therin Telamon

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Kefkakrazy 16:07, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

I'm 99% certain Telamon wasn't a blademaster. He wouldn't have learned the sword before the Dark One escaped, no reason, and he wouldn't have really had time to do it DURING the War. Too busy channeling and whatnot to waste time on an archaic idea such as swordplay... and anyway, if he needed a weapon, swords weren't really the best weapons back then, what with shocklances and all that good stuff. So no, I don't think Telamon was a blademaster, or even knew much more about a sword than what to do with the pointy end.

“You were a greater swordsman once Lews Therin. Do you remember when we took that tame game of swords and used it to kill?”
— Be'lal to Rand, The Dragon Reborn. pg650

I think this definatly indicates that he was a great swordsman in the least. Also Sammael was also a blademaster and he never bragged about Lews Therin not being one. WHich I think he would have taken much greater pride in. So I have no idea, question is. Do Utopian politicians have time for sports when they will live several hundred years? -- Elliot N 17:40, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

Added, that swords was a popular sport and pastime. Sammael was a world champion and possibly Be'lal Elliot N

Added again that Lews Therin definatly knows something of it, it is mentioned a few times Elliot N

Ok, reread some stuff. Lews Therin gave the scar Sammael has on his face during a game of swords, or at least pretty sure that is what they were playing. After Lews Therin had defeated him. Since Sammael was a world champion and a blademaster I think that would make Lews Therin one as well. If at least at that moment, well as long as they have the same rules we do about blademasters. I dunno, Mods call on this one I think -- Elliot N 18:02, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

No need. I admit my error. I suppose I overlooked that part; I didn't remember any specific examples of Telamon being a swordfighter and didn't really thing he WOULD be one, but given your evidence I have to agree with you.

Well now the question is is he an actual blademaster? The only reason I would think so would be for him to be able to even compete against a world champion he would have to be a similar level. I dunno, I think we need more opinions. -- Elliot N 13:37, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

Rand killed Turak without being a blademaster (yet). I think Sammael may have been better than him, but bringing it up also brings up the scar, something I think he'd want to avoid. 207.181.15.218 03:41, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Balefire

I haven't checked, but I'm pretty sure it's been stated by Robert Jordan that Lews Therin didn't balefire himself; he just drew on too much power until he was obliterated. Could be wrong, though.

The interview doesn't seem to exist online anymore, but I found a link to it and a (supposed) quote from Trinity College in Dublin, in 1993. -- nae'blis 19:40, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Healed

I was just reading something.....from book1 prologue, ishamael heals Lews Therin of madness. Any Speculationto how that would work...even with the TP? ~ Uberlisk

   As to my knowledge, the mechanics of TP has never been documented enough to answer that. Ablar 12:20, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Madness

Hey there just a question for anyone who may be able to answer this one

If Semirhage was trapped in the Bore when it was sealed, then the Dark One released the counter stroke which tainted saidin, in Knife of Dreams when she confronts Rand, how would she even know about the effects of the madness and the "voices" in his head. Its not like she was around the Breaking to study it????--GuanYu79 23:05, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Did Lews Therin also hear voices?

Okay, I'm new to this so sorry if its messy.

        When I was reading (and this was a while ago, so I don't have the exact book or quote) When Lews is talking to Rand, he mentions something about being sick of the voices in his head, and now their back (i.e. Rand).